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45-70 Dies
Posted by Murphy on Mar 21 2005
Point man,
Hey! How is Airborne today? Hooyah! Seems you're excited about the new rifle, good deal. George and Thebear are right about the lee dies, pretty good stuff. I would like to mention one other thing. Redding makes a crimp die called the Profile crimp. It is a combination of taper and roll crimp, it actually does both. Since you will have to do seating and crimping in seperate operations, readjust seater to crimp, etc. You might consider a profile crimper as a fourth die. The profile crimp is the only crimp die that will consistantly hold heavy bullets in the 454 with maximum loads. I have all redding dies and presses and it is always top notch. I load about 2 to 3 thousand rounds of rifle and heavy handgun a year with this equipment and it works. (Not to include my Dillon 550 45 auto and 40 S&W ammo) For straight wall cases like the 45-70, I use a Redding T-7 turret press and put the whole set of dies in the turret. In the case of the 45-70 all four and I can leave the seater adjusted to seat and the crimper to crimp. I also use a competition seater for just about all calibers. If you plan to use cast bullets and heavy loads the profile crimper will hold the bullet in place securely. When the magazine is full and recoil is heavy, bullets can be pushed back into the case. When using jacketed bullets they have to have a crimp groove or cannelure to hold the bullet. I actually try to use a powder, Rl-12 for instance, that will allow me to seat the bullet on a slightly compressed load of powder to help keep the bullet in place. Rl-7 might be better for lighter bullets. I order my bullets from www.beartoothbullets.com or www.castperformance.com they are hard, about BHN 20-22, and can be driven to over 2000 fps, you know within pressure limits, and not lead up. Very accurate loads in the 24" gun and the 38-55 Marlin, also. The beartooth sight has lots of good info, also. The speer 350gr hot core is a very good inexpensive bullet and can be driven as hard or easy as you like. Their 405gr is the so called standard 45-70 weight. The Barnes Originals are good also, not the solid copper stuff. If you want to shoot cast bullets in the Marlin, stay away from the copper slugs. They suck for accuracy anyway. For the very best in a jacketed hunting bullet the Kodiak bonded is it! They have 350, 400, 450, 500, any weight you need but of course a littly pricey. I work up loads in the cheap Speers then reduce load a little for safety and try Kodiak, that saves a little $$$. This sounds like a fun project, I'd like to get a Guide gun and get started but I'm involved here locally with a practical shooting club and teaching pistolcraft to new shooters. I guess that will have to wait. Enjoy, and good shootin'.
Murphy
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