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when the human populastion is growing, and more and more hunters are taking to the field EXPECTING to be successful, how do you determine MSY???  by definition, MSY is just that...MAXIMUM. to what ends are we willing to go to increase harvest?...is it MSY with healthy populations of game across the board? or are we after MSY at the expense of all but the ungulate population? shouldn't bears also be managed under MSY?
where do you draw the line?
i think MSY has been reached in many areas, and the answer, though obviously unpopular, is for the human demand on our moose population to be curtailed.
after all, what is it that determines a biological emergency? moose overbrowsing? bears foraging as they always have? or is it the weekend hunter on his ATV that comes home without "his" moose?

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  • Some Facts: Mark Feb 04 2006
    • Let's get the facts right, at least bushrat Feb 04 2006
      • it says i am spam. homerdave Feb 05 2006
      • starband is bouncing homerdave Feb 05 2006
  • I have a question Rod in Wasilla Feb 01 2006
    • Please give this some thought - Brian Richardson Feb 02 2006
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        • You want natural you say? OK Brian Richardson Feb 02 2006
          • Brian northway Feb 03 2006
            • bushrat & northway Brian Richardson Feb 05 2006
          • Uh, Brian bushrat Feb 03 2006
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      • I think I get it Rod in Wasilla Feb 02 2006
    • You are right Rod AlaskaCub Feb 01 2006
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    • yep bushrat Feb 02 2006
      • tend to agree Mark northway Feb 04 2006
  • It Will Be Interesting Mark Feb 01 2006
    • disinformation...again bushrat Feb 01 2006
      • Not Disinformation; BALANCE Mark Feb 02 2006
        • you aren't making much sense bushrat Feb 02 2006
      • Does anyone remember AlaskaCub Feb 01 2006
        • bear counts BRWNBR Feb 01 2006
          • How bears densities are estimated bushrat Feb 02 2006
    • OOPS!!! I'm a moron... B_M Feb 01 2006
    • Multiple areas B_M Feb 01 2006
  • Bushrat??? Akres Feb 01 2006
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        • Question bushrat Feb 01 2006
          • Reply Akres Feb 02 2006
    • Sustained yield B_M Feb 01 2006
    • maximum sustained yield homerdave Feb 01 2006
  • The slope is steep and muddy bushrat Jan 31 2006
    • proposals BRWNBR Jan 31 2006
      • I respectfully differ in opinion on this bushrat Feb 01 2006
        • bushrat BRWNBR Feb 01 2006
    • a sad state homerdave Jan 31 2006
      • the status of bears Chisana Feb 01 2006
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  • control units? twodux Jan 31 2006
    • Yes, but it's nothing new B_M Jan 31 2006
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