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Posted by BrownBear on Jan 11 2006
That's a very good point about illegal signs and checking the maps for actual ownership.
However, among the landowners I know who post their land, it's all about ATVs. Sad to say that they leave tracks that are a lot easier to see than footprints, so it's easy to ding them when a person passing on foot might not have been noticed. But most private land owners I know have locked everyone out because of ATVs.
I'm part owner of a large place in the Lower 48, and rather than No Trespassing signs, we have put up Hunting By Permission Only. I can guarantee that if you show up with an ATV in the back of your truck you are going to get a polite NO to your request. We tell anyone hunting that if they use an ATV in spite of our ban, we're calling the sheriff. We've had idiots drive them across freshly planted fields, leave gates open and send cattle for miles, and even cut fences rather than use gates 100 yards away (*&!?% Leathermen, anyway).
We welcome responsible hunters on a limited basis, but ATVs are banned. We use them ourselves for work, so it's not so much the machine as the irresponsible cranks on the handlebars. We allowed them for a long time, but in the last couple of years some real idiots have spoiled it for all the responsible ATV users. When you are a landowner, there's simply no way to tell the good from the bad, so it's easier to lock them all out.
If you think that's tough medicine, you should hear all our neighbors. They have allowed hunting for years, but all of them have shut down completely, mostly due to irresponsible ATV drivers.
Sounds like it's time for the ATV community to start self-regulating. It's the only way they're going to get around regulations from land owners and agencies.
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